Are Whites and Blacks both “hassled” by police?

I am curious: I am curious if any white folks get “hassled” by the police?

If so, do you video tape it? How do you handle it?

Are blacks “targeted?”

Do we hear about stops and real or perceived injustices more from blacks because we go to the camera or news and whites don’t or does it only happen to blacks?

If you are white, have you been pulled over because you were in the wrong neighborhood?

Have you been asked to leave a certain area because you were making people uncomfortable?

Have you been pulled over or stopped and acted childish and gotten a ticket?

Has someone called the popo on you trying to get in or out of a house?

Get stopped or a ticket for loitering?

And so on… there are all sorts of “I have been wronged” or hassled by the police situations

Or have you ever been unjustly interrogated?

Or do you know of other whites who have had issues with the police? Doesn’t have to be you. Even links or news stories.

 

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This is not about bashing the police, and I, Ayesha Kreutz, am pro-police! I believe police officers and first responders have a difficult and dangerous job. I am simply curious as to why there are so many news stories and social media posts and hype shown about blacks. So I posted the question on my facebook page and so far have found hundreds of whites have also been “improperly” targeted, or hassled by the police. (I use quotes because that is people perception and not necessarily the facts or the truth.

What is the difference in the reporting of such things?

 

Here are some of the responses – Feel Free to add your experience – This is just an experiment

Adam JunodMy dad never got pulled over without a cop at least unsnapping the holster. Always given a hard time.

Paul Rusin – You especially get harassed if you know your rights, and aren’t afraid to speak up. Cops don’t like their authority challenged, even if they are in the wrong.

Derek Beckwith –  Yes, I got lost once and got nailed thinking I was there to buy drugs, he had his hand on his weapon, and I verbally told him what I was going to do before moving my hands. I have had long talks with my kids, 13 and 9, how to handle police if you are ever stopped so not to get shot because they have seen shootings on tv.

Ginny –  I- I am a white woman who does not cause problems BUT I have had 4 run ins with cops. I am not the blonde thin bimbo so I get the tickets, even when the cops lie and I call them on it too, still get the tickets. I have been bullied by 2 cops and lied to by 2, but I still acted respectful as I criticized their lies . The ones bullying I did not say jack nothing to , they have guns and I do not, I figure God will take care of them.

Carolyn – Oh, one other thing that was weird in Texas when I was in my 20s. I had bought a car for $50, and it didn’t have a hood. I kept getting stopped for that (and laughed at too, but that’s another story). The police didn’t seem to know that, yes, it was legal to drive a hoodless car then in Texas. No idea if it’s illegal now after I tormented them.
Marc ScogginWhen I was 17, I was on the way back from a church dance with my younger nephew and we were pulled over and thrown on the ground in the snow while they searched our car. We were in nice clothes. Shirts and ties. They claim that they saw marijuana seeds on my backseat. They were just Pebbles. After they searched my car, they pulled us up and said you’re free to go.
Ed Swartzenberg I drive a lot for work…. one of the things I loath is traffic cops.

I can tell you flat out, most of them are total doucebags.

Arrogant, authoritarian, doucebags.

There was one cop in Brighton…..sitting behind me at a red light. My phone rang, i picked it up and answered it (on speaker phone). Moments later the light turned green. I preceded, he threw on the lights. I pulled over (way over, for his safety) he approached the truck with his pistol out, and stood behind the B pillar. Acting irritated and frightened, he asked for my papers…..

He gave me a cell phone ticket, a littering ticket… for what, i have no idea.

And an expired registration ticket….. the registration wasn’t expired….. I brought that to his attention, he said “that’s your problem”…..

When we were done, i went straight to the Brighton PD…. and asked for the highest ranking officer i could see….

Told him in no uncertain terms that this guy is a fucking asshole, who cant handle the authority he was given…I stopped short of filling an offical complaint…. but i told him if i ever see him on the news, for something I’m going to document this conversation, and share this story with anyone that will listen.

Brenna –  PJ was pulled over once in Irondequoit while I was with him in the car. They said he looked like somebody who had recently robbed the Target store that was nearby, and we happened to be pulling out of their lot. They were asking where he was over the past few weeks, and I’m glad I was with him because I got to say that he was working at a church camp and I could vouch for his whereabouts. It was a little odd, but maybe he did look like the guy they were looking for.

Michelle Kruger Mitchell I had a period in my life for a good 6 months or so, that it seemed as if every time I went somewhere in my car I was getting pulled over and being questioned. I was about 19-20 years old. It was very frustrating, even though I was let go every single time.
Laura George Many times. I once got stopped and harrassed because my license plate was ‘dirty’. I could tell a lot of stories about encounters I’ve had with cops.

Marc Scoggin Another time, I was walking on my parent’s Street and a cop with search lights came down the road. They grabbed me and put me in the back of their car because there had been a call put in about an intruder in the neighborhood. I wasn’t doing anything wrong, but I happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time.

Laura George Another time I had to get out of the car and do the whole sobriety thing because the cop claimed he smelled alcohol in my car. I tried to tell him it was an apple he was smelling but he thought I was lying.

David Rodman Johnson I avoid authority of all kinds . . it attracts predatory minds.

Jason Gorton I did when I was younger. It depends on the town, and what kind of car you drive. Irondequoit has always been bad.
Tera Ertz I got stopped and checked all the time for no tail light (back when I didn’t have one on my old clunker of a van, and when the one on my car was out for a bit). My son got pulled over three or four times when he was out driving late at McDonald’s in ouSee More
Janet Strief I’ve not been hassled by police. I have been watched, followed, given weird looks and a few have questioned me to find the reason why I’m in “in the hood”.

I was pulled over in mid Indiana because I did not use my turn signal for a full 300 ft when pSee More

Shannon Montgomery Grady Was pulled over three times in a 10 month period for a number of either stupid or just false reasons. Once for “appearing” to be texting when I was not and once for allegedly going 70 in a 35 even though I had just left a Red light where I was stopped See More

Laura George Another time a cop followed me for like 10 miles and then stopped me because he said I crossed the yellow line and then searched my car for drugs.
Stanley Levy Whites have 7X the law enforcement interactions that blacks have, experience 2X the number of deaths from police user of force, and receive 1% of the media coverage that blacks receive, regarding their negative interactions with cops.
Greg Jester I got beat by Chattanooga police broken arm and nose , all because I fit the description of a burglar, my family got paid good but I don’t trust police at all

Susannah Cox A relative of mine got stopped in GA for having a NY license plate

Shannon Montgomery Grady Another family members brother was shot at because police thought he fit the description of a bank robber. His dad attempted to go in the back yard to see if they shot him and the police arrested him for it. They fired four rounds into the woods where See More

Janet Strief Oh, and I think figured something out. During my last exploration of the inner city of St Louis (an area close to The Ferguson riots). Not one car stopped at stop signs. They barely slowed their roll. Almost every intersection is a 4 way stop. Most veSee More

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Brian Bertha when I was a lot younger I had an attitude that got me hassled I learned it wasnt worth arguing being more sociable gets more positive results does not mean roll over but once a certain level of aggression is reached no reasoning will occur. Like any other group you have good cops and an occasional bad cowboy.

Andrea Alessi Barbato I’ve been pulled over (my younger years), hassled I believe because I had a thug in my car. I didn’t know it nor understand it at the time but he got dropped off never to be heard from again. In retrospect while they did some background check on me See More

Lori Paige Penner Heck yes! Of course, we do. Racists are jerks, and they don’t stop being jerks just because there are no black people around. I’ve been harassed by the police, wrongly accused, wrongly arrested for simply having my own prescription medicine in my purseSee More

Lori Paige Penner My parents got stopped by the police when I was a kid because they were driving their new Volvo through our small town and the officer figured they were up to something because he never saw a car like that.

Eric R. Carlston Among my interactions with police I did have a cop roll up on me a long time ago because someone called to say there was a suspicious vehicle in the neighborhood. I was picking a friend up at his girlfriend’s house.

Lori Paige Penner I was stopped by the police because he said someone called in and said I was driving on the shoulder. My parents were in the car and we all told him he must have the wrong car because I never drive like that. He still gave me a ticket.

Dan Kulp I think blacks and whites could really come together when they realize that many of the issues are more because of a rise of a police state and an abuse of power and less because of racism. Here is one particular story close to my heart and it got barely any coverage and no national outrage – https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xGjA4SKSO5oManage
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Jeff Talbut I get pulled over quite a bit because “I fit a Profile”, in two differing areas…1) I fit the “Drug Buyer” profile in certain low income parts of town, I have not had a drink or a drug in over 30years, in fact when I am there it is because I am meeting with someone to help them to do the same thing, I stay polite, the cops stay polite, everyone goes on their way. before long they get to expect to see me and wave when they do. 2) I worked for a boating Magazine for 8 years, in addition to writing I also did some distribution, dropping latest issues off at every marina, yachtclub, restaurant and boat related location from Port Huron to Buffalo….a whole lot of waterfront driving, some in rural areas, much of it in Urban, Detroit, Toledo, Cleveland, Erie, Buffalo. “Middle aged, Tan solo guy in sunglasses, active boating area, late in the day, on a weekend, driving a Jeep” is a nearly guaranteed “DUI Stop”. They stop me…I’m fine. I stay polite, they stay polite, we all go on our way, before long they come to recognize me on sight and wave. In many ways policing is like fishing…you don’t keep going where you never catch anything, they keep fishing where the catching is consistently good.
Lori Paige Penner I once had to pay a speeding ticket 3 times because they kept losing their records of my payment and so they arrested me for non-payment….TWICE! And I paid it 3 times.

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What is your mood about America these days? Let me know at the end of this post – Thanks Ayesha

There is a lot of talk these days about freedom.

Almost daily, the headlines and airwaves are abuzz with folks decrying another assault on our freedom, vigorously defending it or cheering its evolution.

Freedom is an inherent part of the state and national debate on guns, the U.S. Supreme Court decisions regarding same-sex marriage and the Voting Rights Act, the response to the Boston Marathon bombings. There is talk of freedom in the National Security Agency monitoring of emails and phone calls, the Internal Revenue Service’s scrutiny of conservative groups, in the battles we wage at home and abroad.

Ultimately, any discussion of American identity and the Fourth of July is about freedom, its many forms and viewpoints. These are just a few:

“We have the freedom to travel across the country or across the street … We have the freedom to question our government, where many countries don’t …. I am willing to sacrifice my life to protect those freedoms.”

Retired Master Sgt. Luann Van Peursem served 33 years in the military. She was in Desert Storm, Operation Iraqi Freedom and Operation Enduring Freedom.

She received the Air Force Medal of Commendation with Valor in 2007 for saving two male soldiers seriously wounded when they came under attack in Baghdad.

Van Peursem is not one to share her political beliefs publicly, only to say that, in her opinion, not all decisions that were unpopular were bad, and not all decisions were “favorable.”

Freedom is the ability to make choices, she says. “It gets one thinking — about certain things we take for granted.” As far as where things stand today: “I think we can do much better.”

On this Fourth of July, as the night sky fills with booms, cascading firelight and patriotic hymns, Van Peursem will do as she always does.

“I celebrate it on an individual basis. It’s very personal. I can’t handle fireworks. They are triggers for me. I wouldn’t want to take that away from citizens of our country. It is our tradition. I used to love fireworks, the bigger the better.”

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But now it is an “overwhelming trigger.”

“I go home and pretty much isolate during that time frame.”

“Freedom to me means my son, who also happens to be gay, won’t live with the same constraints in the second half of his life that I have had to live with in mine.”

That is the optimism of Tom Privitere, a Pittsford man who spent his career in labor relations — working to secure or protect benefits that he often was denied.

He also marched, rode buses, went to rallies. He negotiated the first domestic partner benefits in New York state in the 1990s. In 2006, the Rochester Labor Council became the first such council in the state to pass a resolution in favor of marriage equality.

Gov. Andrew Cuomo made it law in 2011.

Then, last week, the U.S. Supreme Court struck down the Defense of Marriage Act.

“For the first time in my almost 65 years, I felt like a whole citizen in my country. I don’t know if that makes sense to you, but the Supreme Court decision did something visceral for me that, actually, the marriage vote didn’t.”

The difference, he said, was the recognition that the federal government had, in DOMA, instituted discrimination.

Privitere turns 65 this month and plans to retire as director of field services for Western New York with the New York state Public Employees Federation.

“Until last week, I still felt … less than, and not as free as, and not as entitled as my next-door neighbor.”

“I suppose it depends on somebody’s definition of free. I think we are a lot more free to be foolish … (but the politicians) they don’t seem to be afraid of ‘We the people’ anymore. It is almost like we don’t have any power to control our government.”

She is a stay-at-home, home-schooling mother of three living in the city, an African-American, a volunteer, a conservative Republican, strong in her convictions about limited government, gun rights and wary about the future.

Ayesha Kreutz, 40, worries that high taxes, which already limit her ability to see family out of state, or help her neighbors in need, are only going to be more restricting on her children. She is concerned about the expanding reach of government, and what might happen down the road.

oo many seem complacent, “until we get the wrong person in office, and you are not equally applying the Constitution, you just let someone use the Constitution any way they want,” and then there is no stopping it because it has happened for several administrations.

She believes there is no more free press. She doesn’t think colleges are preparing the next generation to think critically. She sees a breakdown of families, the role of churches.

The news brings word of a constant push against individual freedoms, and it has been going on for three or four generations. “Liberty,” she said, “is a two-way street. You have to be willing to think through these things and say, ‘Hold on.’ ” And in those moments, she sees that what she wants and what her neighbors want are the same things.

“In the truest sense, I believe that being able to be free means that we have the ability to be successful. We have the ability to make mistakes. We have every opportunity before us to do whatever it is that makes us be in pursuit of happiness.”

“Freedom is how a community has an appreciation of one another, of cultures or religions living together in peace and harmony. That is the real freedom — if we can have it.”

Those are the words of Muhammad Shafiq, former imam of the Islamic Center of Rochester, who works as executive director of the Brian and Jean Hickey Center for Interfaith Studies and Dialogue at Nazareth College.

He teaches Islamic and religious studies.

The United States has been his home since 1976, and, in that time, has become much more diverse as advances in technology and globalization brought the world to its doorstep. Yet education, awareness and understanding of other cultures and religions has not kept pace.

Islamophobia is increasing, he says.

A recent example came in Boston. In the aftermath, one man was attacked and two others falsely identified as the search for “dark skinned” suspects played out in media reports. With an arrest, attention focused on the suspects being Muslim, though they violated many tenets of the faith.

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Similar things have happened, in fact bigger than this in our country, in other countries also,” Shafiq says. “We never associated religion with that. We took it as an individual doing a horrendous act.”

On the global stage, there are the drone attacks and Guantanamo Bay. The standing of America — which he calls great, honorable and high civilization — is slipping, he says: “I think our model of freedom for human rights is getting sort of oblique, or darker. … It is diminishing, that role, if you look into the world.”

In the years before and immediately after 9/11, Shafiq would return to his native Pakistan and be greeted with press conferences and television appearances. Now, he goes back quietly, secretly.

“Now I go there, I hide — so people don’t know. I’m not talking anything about America. … I am fearful of my life. I am just saying to you, this is very, very true. … I come from that part of the world. They should respect me. But that is gone now.”

“What I cherish most about this country is that I can stand up, and I can speak my mind. … We have opportunities within this country that no other group of people have on the globe. We have been very fortunate.“

In her 85 years, Constance Mitchell has witnessed riots, welcomed civil rights leaders including Malcom X into her home, and made history as the first African-American elected to public office in Monroe County. She was, at that time in the 1960s, as a member of the Monroe County Legislature and the highest-serving black woman in the nation.

“I look at Rochester as a whole. Here is a community that certainly has been through, well, we have been through it all within this community. And yet we still have people that find they cannot get along with each other because of race. They can’t get along with each other because of someone’s skin.

“It doesn’t mean we aren’t moving forward.“

That her experience would be here, in a city that was home to Susan B. Anthony and Frederick Douglass, makes voting rights that much more significant.

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If Abortion is an unhealthy choice, then why are Democrats for it?

Abortion is not a good choice or a healthy choice. Liberals love to advocate for government intervention when people are doing “harmful things” or things that are personal “choices” but that might cost
taxpayers money…..except when it comes to killing babies and sexual deviance (which in heterosexuals can often lead to an abortion) Hmmmmm…..

What ever happened to “safe, legal and rare?”

Rare: there are approximately 3,000 abortions a day, (22% of all pregnancies end in forced- abortion).

Safe: There are 51 million counted dead innocent babies, hundreds of counted dead woman who have died from a forced abortion or from sever depression, drug addiction and suicide associated with having an abortion.

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Legal: Well, yes it is legal all the way up to the last trimester as a matter of fact. It seems that these days all they care about is legal.

Liberals/Progressives/Democrats are always trying to say that they “care” and that they want us to make healthy choices. They want to tell us what is better for us and tell us what the truth is.  It’s as if they’re trying to control every aspect of our lives.

Those of us on the other side: Christians w/ a Biblical Worldview, Conservatives and Republicans (not R.I.N.O.’s) believer live and let live. We will point you to the truth in love, share with you the wisdom we have, ask you to make correct choices (life-affirming choices), but we ultimately know that it is your choice in regards to how you choose to live. I am not saying we won’t continue to point to the way, the truth and life, but we understand that part of freedom is the freedom to be wrong, the freedom to be offended and the freedom to live as you see fit. It is only when you try to infringe on our rights to live as we have chosen that we go on the offense in order to defend our way of life. It is only when your choices risk the lives of innocent people that we draw the lines.

 

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And on top of it I hear liberals saying, “Stay out of my bedroom. What happens in my bedroom is my business. Stay away from my body, My body my choice.”

But then they want the government to mandate that we taxpayers to pay for it?

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Religion and Government do they mix?

This is to those who would call themself a Christian.

“You cannot compartmentalize God and live a life of integrity” ~ Ayesha Kreutz

 

“We must ask ourselves and then answer, counting the cost along the way, a few questions: “Am I committed to Christ?”, “Do I believe what I say I believe?” “Can I allow my faith to penetrate every aspect of my life?” Living an integrated life of faith is how we allow the world see the glorious fullness of our Savior” ~ Ayesha Kreutz

 

 

Black America What is important to you?

meface1Look I got to be real right now. I watch all these white folks standing up, fighting for their rights (1st Amendment, 2nd Amendment, Life), fighting to assure they remain free people. The crowds are a sea of white peppered with so little black, I often find myself wanting to weep for my fellow brothers and sisters of color.

So Black America I have to ask a couple of questions:

1st. “Where are you?” I see you at rallies for Obama, or for not cutting a program and other non-essentials but Where are you when it comes to standing for our fundamental rights that keep us from becoming slaves (again)?

2nd. What is important to you? What things are on your mind? What freedoms are important to you? A

 

Where is the disconnect?

Do you understand what is going on?

Let us Reason Together:  I hope you will take a moment to share your thoughts and answer these honest, heartfelt questions I am having.

Thank you!

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Is allowing non-doctors to give abortions “Safe”?

This is a question to those who are pro-choice/abortion in one way or another. Such as I would never do it but who am I to tell someone else not to, or I think its a woman’s right etc…

I hear often “Keeping Abortion Legal Means Keeping Abortion Safe.” My question is: how is safe to legalize allowing  anyone, including those who aren’t doctors, to give an abortion “making it safe?”

I ask because reading over Gov. Cuomo’s “Reproductive Health Act“, that is what he is proposing. The name sounds all nice and fuzzy and productive doesn’t it, but maybe should we call it something like the “Reproductive Homicide Act” instead?

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What does America mean to you?

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Unofficial Poll:

Do you believe, do you believe in America and what we stand for?

Do you know the principles in which America was built upon?

Do you understand the beatuy of America?

What does America mean to you?

Is it worth fighting for?

There are no right or wrong answers. Just wanting to see what YOU think, what YOU feel and where you are coming from.

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Question: A little Honest Dialogue w/ Democrats

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Why are you a democrat?

If you are one of my Democrat friends or readers, I have a real and serious question for you.

Why are you a democrat? I mean what is it at this point/time in history that has you a Democrat?

There is not wrong answer and this is not to talk you out of it or disagree or cause debate or conflict etc… I am just genuinely curious. Thanks 🙂 I appricilove the insight.