Are Whites and Blacks both “hassled” by police?

I am curious: I am curious if any white folks get “hassled” by the police?

If so, do you video tape it? How do you handle it?

Are blacks “targeted?”

Do we hear about stops and real or perceived injustices more from blacks because we go to the camera or news and whites don’t or does it only happen to blacks?

If you are white, have you been pulled over because you were in the wrong neighborhood?

Have you been asked to leave a certain area because you were making people uncomfortable?

Have you been pulled over or stopped and acted childish and gotten a ticket?

Has someone called the popo on you trying to get in or out of a house?

Get stopped or a ticket for loitering?

And so on… there are all sorts of “I have been wronged” or hassled by the police situations

Or have you ever been unjustly interrogated?

Or do you know of other whites who have had issues with the police? Doesn’t have to be you. Even links or news stories.

 

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This is not about bashing the police, and I, Ayesha Kreutz, am pro-police! I believe police officers and first responders have a difficult and dangerous job. I am simply curious as to why there are so many news stories and social media posts and hype shown about blacks. So I posted the question on my facebook page and so far have found hundreds of whites have also been “improperly” targeted, or hassled by the police. (I use quotes because that is people perception and not necessarily the facts or the truth.

What is the difference in the reporting of such things?

 

Here are some of the responses – Feel Free to add your experience – This is just an experiment

Adam JunodMy dad never got pulled over without a cop at least unsnapping the holster. Always given a hard time.

Paul Rusin – You especially get harassed if you know your rights, and aren’t afraid to speak up. Cops don’t like their authority challenged, even if they are in the wrong.

Derek Beckwith –  Yes, I got lost once and got nailed thinking I was there to buy drugs, he had his hand on his weapon, and I verbally told him what I was going to do before moving my hands. I have had long talks with my kids, 13 and 9, how to handle police if you are ever stopped so not to get shot because they have seen shootings on tv.

Ginny –  I- I am a white woman who does not cause problems BUT I have had 4 run ins with cops. I am not the blonde thin bimbo so I get the tickets, even when the cops lie and I call them on it too, still get the tickets. I have been bullied by 2 cops and lied to by 2, but I still acted respectful as I criticized their lies . The ones bullying I did not say jack nothing to , they have guns and I do not, I figure God will take care of them.

Carolyn – Oh, one other thing that was weird in Texas when I was in my 20s. I had bought a car for $50, and it didn’t have a hood. I kept getting stopped for that (and laughed at too, but that’s another story). The police didn’t seem to know that, yes, it was legal to drive a hoodless car then in Texas. No idea if it’s illegal now after I tormented them.
Marc ScogginWhen I was 17, I was on the way back from a church dance with my younger nephew and we were pulled over and thrown on the ground in the snow while they searched our car. We were in nice clothes. Shirts and ties. They claim that they saw marijuana seeds on my backseat. They were just Pebbles. After they searched my car, they pulled us up and said you’re free to go.
Ed Swartzenberg I drive a lot for work…. one of the things I loath is traffic cops.

I can tell you flat out, most of them are total doucebags.

Arrogant, authoritarian, doucebags.

There was one cop in Brighton…..sitting behind me at a red light. My phone rang, i picked it up and answered it (on speaker phone). Moments later the light turned green. I preceded, he threw on the lights. I pulled over (way over, for his safety) he approached the truck with his pistol out, and stood behind the B pillar. Acting irritated and frightened, he asked for my papers…..

He gave me a cell phone ticket, a littering ticket… for what, i have no idea.

And an expired registration ticket….. the registration wasn’t expired….. I brought that to his attention, he said “that’s your problem”…..

When we were done, i went straight to the Brighton PD…. and asked for the highest ranking officer i could see….

Told him in no uncertain terms that this guy is a fucking asshole, who cant handle the authority he was given…I stopped short of filling an offical complaint…. but i told him if i ever see him on the news, for something I’m going to document this conversation, and share this story with anyone that will listen.

Brenna –  PJ was pulled over once in Irondequoit while I was with him in the car. They said he looked like somebody who had recently robbed the Target store that was nearby, and we happened to be pulling out of their lot. They were asking where he was over the past few weeks, and I’m glad I was with him because I got to say that he was working at a church camp and I could vouch for his whereabouts. It was a little odd, but maybe he did look like the guy they were looking for.

Michelle Kruger Mitchell I had a period in my life for a good 6 months or so, that it seemed as if every time I went somewhere in my car I was getting pulled over and being questioned. I was about 19-20 years old. It was very frustrating, even though I was let go every single time.
Laura George Many times. I once got stopped and harrassed because my license plate was ‘dirty’. I could tell a lot of stories about encounters I’ve had with cops.

Marc Scoggin Another time, I was walking on my parent’s Street and a cop with search lights came down the road. They grabbed me and put me in the back of their car because there had been a call put in about an intruder in the neighborhood. I wasn’t doing anything wrong, but I happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time.

Laura George Another time I had to get out of the car and do the whole sobriety thing because the cop claimed he smelled alcohol in my car. I tried to tell him it was an apple he was smelling but he thought I was lying.

David Rodman Johnson I avoid authority of all kinds . . it attracts predatory minds.

Jason Gorton I did when I was younger. It depends on the town, and what kind of car you drive. Irondequoit has always been bad.
Tera Ertz I got stopped and checked all the time for no tail light (back when I didn’t have one on my old clunker of a van, and when the one on my car was out for a bit). My son got pulled over three or four times when he was out driving late at McDonald’s in ouSee More
Janet Strief I’ve not been hassled by police. I have been watched, followed, given weird looks and a few have questioned me to find the reason why I’m in “in the hood”.

I was pulled over in mid Indiana because I did not use my turn signal for a full 300 ft when pSee More

Shannon Montgomery Grady Was pulled over three times in a 10 month period for a number of either stupid or just false reasons. Once for “appearing” to be texting when I was not and once for allegedly going 70 in a 35 even though I had just left a Red light where I was stopped See More

Laura George Another time a cop followed me for like 10 miles and then stopped me because he said I crossed the yellow line and then searched my car for drugs.
Stanley Levy Whites have 7X the law enforcement interactions that blacks have, experience 2X the number of deaths from police user of force, and receive 1% of the media coverage that blacks receive, regarding their negative interactions with cops.
Greg Jester I got beat by Chattanooga police broken arm and nose , all because I fit the description of a burglar, my family got paid good but I don’t trust police at all

Susannah Cox A relative of mine got stopped in GA for having a NY license plate

Shannon Montgomery Grady Another family members brother was shot at because police thought he fit the description of a bank robber. His dad attempted to go in the back yard to see if they shot him and the police arrested him for it. They fired four rounds into the woods where See More

Janet Strief Oh, and I think figured something out. During my last exploration of the inner city of St Louis (an area close to The Ferguson riots). Not one car stopped at stop signs. They barely slowed their roll. Almost every intersection is a 4 way stop. Most veSee More

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Brian Bertha when I was a lot younger I had an attitude that got me hassled I learned it wasnt worth arguing being more sociable gets more positive results does not mean roll over but once a certain level of aggression is reached no reasoning will occur. Like any other group you have good cops and an occasional bad cowboy.

Andrea Alessi Barbato I’ve been pulled over (my younger years), hassled I believe because I had a thug in my car. I didn’t know it nor understand it at the time but he got dropped off never to be heard from again. In retrospect while they did some background check on me See More

Lori Paige Penner Heck yes! Of course, we do. Racists are jerks, and they don’t stop being jerks just because there are no black people around. I’ve been harassed by the police, wrongly accused, wrongly arrested for simply having my own prescription medicine in my purseSee More

Lori Paige Penner My parents got stopped by the police when I was a kid because they were driving their new Volvo through our small town and the officer figured they were up to something because he never saw a car like that.

Eric R. Carlston Among my interactions with police I did have a cop roll up on me a long time ago because someone called to say there was a suspicious vehicle in the neighborhood. I was picking a friend up at his girlfriend’s house.

Lori Paige Penner I was stopped by the police because he said someone called in and said I was driving on the shoulder. My parents were in the car and we all told him he must have the wrong car because I never drive like that. He still gave me a ticket.

Dan Kulp I think blacks and whites could really come together when they realize that many of the issues are more because of a rise of a police state and an abuse of power and less because of racism. Here is one particular story close to my heart and it got barely any coverage and no national outrage – https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xGjA4SKSO5oManage
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Jeff Talbut I get pulled over quite a bit because “I fit a Profile”, in two differing areas…1) I fit the “Drug Buyer” profile in certain low income parts of town, I have not had a drink or a drug in over 30years, in fact when I am there it is because I am meeting with someone to help them to do the same thing, I stay polite, the cops stay polite, everyone goes on their way. before long they get to expect to see me and wave when they do. 2) I worked for a boating Magazine for 8 years, in addition to writing I also did some distribution, dropping latest issues off at every marina, yachtclub, restaurant and boat related location from Port Huron to Buffalo….a whole lot of waterfront driving, some in rural areas, much of it in Urban, Detroit, Toledo, Cleveland, Erie, Buffalo. “Middle aged, Tan solo guy in sunglasses, active boating area, late in the day, on a weekend, driving a Jeep” is a nearly guaranteed “DUI Stop”. They stop me…I’m fine. I stay polite, they stay polite, we all go on our way, before long they come to recognize me on sight and wave. In many ways policing is like fishing…you don’t keep going where you never catch anything, they keep fishing where the catching is consistently good.
Lori Paige Penner I once had to pay a speeding ticket 3 times because they kept losing their records of my payment and so they arrested me for non-payment….TWICE! And I paid it 3 times.

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  1. White Male here. I have multiple situations that are noteworthy.
    1.) I was pulled over on a back road by a sheriff. He said I was speeding, but I was going about 3MPH under the limit. Before I knew what was happening, I was face-down in the grass while he searched my truck for drugs. He even called in back-up and a dog. He said he suspected I had meth because I was chewing on a McDonald’s straw and that is a common thing for drug users to do. Never got an apology or anything. Made me stand in front of my truck, with the keys on the tailgate until he drove off.

    2.) I was pulled over in a neighboring town because my truck, apparently, looked like the vehicle a known drug dealer drives. After being cuffed and searched, the officer lets me go. I find out from another officer that the drug dealer I was mistaken for drives a black Cadillac. I drive a forest green Dodge pickup. This same officer has a reputation for justifying his searches of people with false facts, so nobody had every questioned it.

    3.) I have been pulled over what I estimate is about 25 times, by the same officer that patrols our neighborhood for my tag light being out. It isn’t out. It never has been. I’ve filed harassment reports and even written the mayor. Nothing has ever come of it.

    4.) There is a town about 25 miles to my East. It is notorious for meth heads. I have never driven through that town (I have to decently regularly) without being pulled over and searched for drugs. Apparently, being a white guy with a vehicle automatically makes me a drug dealer in that area. Those officers have even told me to my face that they just assume because I am a redneck guy with a old work truck, they will always pull me over and search me, just in case.

    5.) Last story. I was actually read my rights and arrested because an officer thought I was one of four men involved in a robbery. I look nothing like any of the four people who were eventually convicted of said crime. I was with an underage cousin at the time of said arrest. The officers assumed I was her father, for some reason. The officers were actually joking around about my daughter being put into foster care, while I was sleeping with some guy in prison. She was bawling and trying to talk to them and they just kept taunting both of us. I assume, trying to get me to lose my temper and react. One of the two officers never holstered his weapon the entire time. Even after I was cuffed and stuffed. Both of those officers, I am happy to say, lost their jobs.

    Harassment has nothing to do with color by any means. I am very pro-police. I have a lot of respect for our Leo’s. But they are people too and, sometimes, not very good ones…

  2. I received a fake ticket once – I was young and in a cheap car so the cop probably thought I was an easy target. I went to court and lost. My word against a cop’s. 🙁 Once on a long road trip I was pulled over by the highway patrol he screamed and yelled and bullied me trying to get me to admit to something. I held my ground and volunteered nothing. Eventually he let me go. This was pre-smart phone or you bet your ass I’d have recorded him! But I’ve had dozens more interactions with cops that were positive so I don’t think of it as a big deal. Some people are ass holes, that’s all.

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